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ComputerGurutoday at 3:30 PM7 repliesview on HN

AI-generated text warning (I submitted - but did not author - the piece), but it seems MS Paint and MS Photos add both a visible (can be turned off) and invisible (cannot be disabled and happens silently in the background with no user notice) watermarks to photos that have been AI-manipulated, even when using a local model to perform the action. It's not clear if this applies to even things like using AI-enhanced background delete/remove, but the invisible watermark is embedded in both the image pixels and the image metadata, both containing a GUID that can be linked to the exact prompt that was used and the originating device/user (on Microsoft's end).

Obvious next step is to explore if you can replace watermarker.dll with a (signed) no-op shim or MITM the API call to at least use your own (nil?) GUID that isn't linked to your device/account.

In case it's not obvious, my bigger concern isn't "this image can be identified to have been generated with/by AI" so much as it is "digital yellow printer dots have been forced upon us, except they can identify and retrieve the exact user/device/time/place/document/etc", completely destroying any and all illusions of privacy left.


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nemomarxtoday at 3:56 PM

I'd like to know more about the GUID part and how easy is it so deanonymize yeah.

But if it's only on ai generation and not on all images it seems easy enough to work around that part? Still better than printers doing it no matter what you're printing.

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furyofantarestoday at 6:12 PM

> AI-generated text warning (I submitted - but did not author - the piece)

Took me a moment to realize you're saying someone else generated it, rather than you did.

stronglikedantoday at 3:59 PM

> AI-generated text warning

This seems incorrect to me. Are you basing that on the use of bullet points?

frig57today at 7:26 PM

How do they add a watermark to local llm content?

NuclearPMtoday at 3:50 PM

I don’t understand the warning.

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Noaiditoday at 4:59 PM

I have some better options. Stop using computers, or if you use a computer, use Linux.

Everything is spying on us now. Literally everything. I recently downgraded my MacBook M1 to Sonoma to avoid all this AI privacy invading BS.

like_any_othertoday at 3:50 PM

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