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an_accounttoday at 4:56 PM7 repliesview on HN

Electricity generated from wind and solar with some wires to the dredge would be way easier than dredging by hand.

Why do many environmental activists seem to want to go back to a shitty past rather than move forward to bright future.

The historical aspects of this article are a good read though. Very interesting technology.


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onraglanroadtoday at 8:24 PM

> Why do many environmental activists seem to want to go back to a shitty past rather than move forward to bright future.

They don't. That's fossil fuel propoganda that you've fallen for and are now spreading.

In reality fossil fuel is crap and we don't need it.

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black_puppydogtoday at 8:48 PM

Well, for a techno-utopian perspective, a page called "Low Tech Magazine" might not be the right place to search. :)

Besides, the page linked is actually powered entirely by solar panels, although intentionally not battery backed in this instance.

intrasighttoday at 7:05 PM

I read the whole article figuring that the question in the title would be answered. Like you enjoyed the history but was frustrated by the fact that the question was never addressed.

Moosdijktoday at 7:20 PM

>some wires.

Id look into that statement some more if I were you: There’s much difficulty building houses and starting industry because the net is congested.

As always: if it’s as easy as a random commenter suggests, it’s probably not that easy.

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metalmantoday at 9:06 PM

Many enviromentalists want to move past the enshitified present, and get a place where responsibly utilised technologys can be maintained ,repaired and modified. Doing repair and maintenance to a wide variety of equipment from many different erras, while building new things is part of my life.I am getting most of my energy from solar and renewable sources, but with engines for more energy intensive things like welding and transportation so thinking about ways to reasonably move forward has me very interested in electric battery cars,trucks,boats,airplanes,tractors and the rest, like megga massive earth moving equipment or say a dredge, which is where we agree, but it has to be a thing that is intuitive to operate and fix, reliable, and reasonably safe, but not priced so high that only capital can own it, this last bit is the part that makes the past atractive, as it is a place where if nothing else, people had agency as the default.VS the nagging nanny nightmare of enshitification and bieng institutionalised in there own skin.

TacticalCodertoday at 8:15 PM

> Why do many environmental activists seem to want to go back to a shitty past rather than move forward to bright future.

So do care about the environment but many "green" activists do not care at all for the environment: for those it's just another version of communism. They want to crush the notion of the individual: they cannot understand the notion of a free, happy, individual.

They're rather have unhappy people united in communism, living miserably like under the USSR, than having a more advanced, richer, country if more advanced and richer means people are free.

Many don't care a yota about the environment: it's just an excuse to try to remove freedom from others.

retiredtoday at 5:09 PM

I kinda like the idea of using prison labour for environmentally friendly dredging.

But The Netherlands abolish prison slave labour in 2021 so that is no longer possible.

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