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volf_yesterday at 5:54 PM4 repliesview on HN

GLM 5.3 and all previous models don't have a vision encoder and can only accept text. Ox-Alpha can accept video and images, so unless Z-ai added a pretty good vision encoder for this model, I don't think so.

My money is on Moonshot and this being Kimi K3.5. The measured tps and latency is in-line with K3's tps and latency from Moonshot.

MiniMax M3.5 is also possible (but the MiniiMax provider is a lot more performant than the lab behind ox-alpha, so less likely).


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nylonstrungyesterday at 7:38 PM

It would be stranger to me that Kimi switched to GLM's tokenizer than that GLM added multimodal like Kimi and Deepseek both did recently

minimaxirtoday at 4:21 AM

The other tell from the provider angle is capacity. Whoever is hosting Ox Alpha has a lot of capacity which narrows down a lot of the Chinese companies.

Bolwinyesterday at 5:58 PM

Glm had made vision models in the past. Look up GLM 5v.

The only question now is if it's 5.3v, 5.4/5.5 or a dedicated flash/vision model

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Almondsetatyesterday at 5:55 PM

DeepSeek literally just came out with the vision-enabled version of Flash v4 which was purely text based. Why would GLM not be able to do the same thing?

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