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Tooltips need a delay, and then they need to skip it

105 pointsby ibobevtoday at 4:35 PM20 commentsview on HN

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ProxCoquestoday at 9:30 PM

It will never cease to amaze to me that Apple (under Jef Raskin who also wrote about this in The Humane Interface) observed and fixed problems with interactions like this in SYSTEM 6 in like 1993 or something - only for the same problem to have to be re-descovered and re-fixed decades later.

brixietoday at 8:18 PM

This looks it's describing the same technique as the last example in https://emilkowal.ski/ui/you-dont-need-animations (and that whole post is worth a read, I think, if you found this interesting).

It's such a small detail that I wouldn't have otherwise noticed (because I don't build animations, so it doesn't cross my mind), but now that I know about it, I think about it all the time.

hurrelltoday at 6:54 PM

I think I would describe this as an example of hysteresis. Neat! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysteresis

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compiler-guytoday at 5:35 PM

I greatly appreciate this attention to detail, and there isn't enough of this in the world. For example, in Visual Studio popups on hover happen so fast you can barely select anything, or you end up clicking on the popup instead of selecting a word.

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phyzometoday at 5:34 PM

I ran into the same problem about 20 years ago when implementing hover-based dropdown menus on a website. It was only about 10 lines of JS and a couple global variables but I was the only person who understood it. :-P

(These days I would have included more comments.)

Naturally, there was a fallback to pure CSS menus, because we weren't barbarians.

jamesharttoday at 11:04 PM

Feels like the delay also gets implemented into displaying the tooltip on tap on a touch interface which is probably an error.

nayrocladetoday at 5:44 PM

Chris Coyier also posted a version using only HTML/CSS, no JS: https://blog.master.dev/delayed-then-instant-tooltips-with-h...

goda90today at 8:03 PM

What about using mouse velocity? If the mouse is changing position at a certain rate, don't show the tooltips.

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self_awarenesstoday at 8:57 PM

Hilarious. Web devs discovering UX from Win95. What's next, 3d buttons?

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halostatuetoday at 5:44 PM

The pure CSS version seems more interesting to me: https://blog.master.dev/delayed-then-instant-tooltips-with-h...

jay_kyburztoday at 8:12 PM

Perhaps I'm just an old grump, but I prefer the No Delay version in the example.

I like predictable, consistent, and fast.