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Pentagon's blacklisting of Anthropic was unlawful, US judge rules

176 pointsby softwaredougtoday at 11:25 AM61 commentsview on HN

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DannyBeetoday at 12:24 PM

The opinion is quite straightforward, and the evidence on the government's side was entirely nonsense, essentially.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.46...

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thataccounttoday at 1:43 PM

https://san.com/cc/no-the-nsa-wasnt-hacked-by-ai-heres-what-...

If this article is accurate, it sounds like Mythos via Anthropic had proven itself to be a security risk. This explains the dual speak around it being both essential and a supply chain risk, since if it were hacked by another country it would compromise security.

Not being any riskier than any other "blackbox" AI is still sufficiently dangerous and I suppose the difference, without knowing more about what the government tested, was that they knew Mythos could do these things as they had evaluated it themselves.

giwooktoday at 12:12 PM

Like so many of this administration's actions, unfortunately...

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londons_exploretoday at 12:28 PM

Presumably this is going to lead to anthropic getting a big payday from the US gov for all the time their flagship product was banned and all the users they lost due to it

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WalterGRtoday at 1:37 PM

124 comments on this submission from 10 hours prior: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49473522

cubefoxtoday at 1:36 PM

But I guess Anthropic will not be compensated?

idiotsecanttoday at 1:06 PM

It did what it was supposed to - punish an entity that dared not do what the government told them to. It doesn't matter if anthropic gets a payday out of it, the administration doesn't get hurt by that and won't learn any lessons. We need to hold individual politicians and functionaries accountable

digitaltreestoday at 1:12 PM

When this administration is done we need to amend the constitution to hold politicians legally and financially responsible for intentionally lying and intentionally breaking the law. This was obviously illegal on its face and yet there is no consequence to pushing the norms.

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josefritzisheretoday at 1:24 PM

Lots of that going around in this administration

techneektoday at 1:18 PM

"The empty invocation of national security is not a blank check to punish and retaliate against government critics."

micromacrofoottoday at 1:08 PM

Add it to the "but no one's going to do anything about it" pile

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dzongatoday at 1:29 PM

criminals in charge did unlawful shit. what a surprise.

whalesaladtoday at 12:32 PM

Unlawful means absolutely nothing these days.

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kyprotoday at 1:46 PM

I know most will see this as a good thing, and perhaps in this case it is, but I think it's generally concerning that people can vote for leaders who effectively can't do anything significant.

I understand this community largely disagrees with Trump, but the only people who win overall from these scenarios are people who support the status-quo and don't like the idea of a leader having significant power to change things. Any leader who is elected on a mandate to govern differently will face similar legal challenges.

I'm also not saying there's no place for legal challenges either, but there is a balance to be found there. The idea the Pentagon can't blacklist a US company for whatever reason it wants just seems absurd to me regardless of whether this specific ruling is good or bad.

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small_modeltoday at 12:49 PM

"When the president does it, that means that it is not illegal."

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nekusartoday at 1:33 PM

And NOT a damned thing will be done to punish the administration for these obvious illegal actions.

And they'll continue to do so, because it takes months to unwind this shit, and the damage was done immediately.

SimonWAdstoday at 1:28 PM

Nobody ever believed Anthropic is doing anything interesting.

Giant waste of marketing with “Dario” and everything else. Nobody believes it.

Because nobody uses their shit. They have no customers.