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runarbergtoday at 1:31 PM2 repliesview on HN

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inglor_cztoday at 2:45 PM

I find it really amusing just how different our perspectives on the EU are.

You accuse the EU of being neo-liberal, I accuse it of being a micromanaging bureaucratic behemoth heaping endless new regulations on everything including wrapping paper (this is our current outrage of the day), endlessly distrustful towards people who what just to take care of themselves and be left alone.

It is hard to believe that we are both describing the same entity. Reminds me of the fable of an elephant and three blind men.

Also, when it comes to borders, you probably know that if they were guarded as much as the European population wants, the situation would have been a lot stricter than it is. The EU is more left-wing in this regard than the median European voter.

GlacierFoxtoday at 2:37 PM

"Another problem is border fascism. Europe has open borders internally, but very closed borders externally. The external borders are being militarized and increasingly hostile towards immigrants and asylum seekers. European politicians are showing increasingly fascistic behavior towards the borders. It is bad, and inhumane, and it is braking Europe apart."

What planet are you living on? Border fascism? What?

70,000 'migrants' crossed into Cueta a short while back and the place is in turmoil now.

"European politicians are showing increasingly fascistic behavior towards the borders"

Where do people like you come from? I'm always interested in this utterly surreal take on enforcing the border of your own country, like that's now fascist. What's going on here?

There's not many positions that leave me utterly perplexed. I'm sincerely asking, how you hold your position on this? What have you experienced in life to end up with these opinions? What benefit is flooding Europe with literally anyone from all the backward cultured shit holes from around the world?

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