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bluegattytoday at 4:26 PM0 repliesview on HN

Yes, this is it. And add to that the ugly pull of naive pro-EU populists (who are deceiving because they're generally a nice lot) and the other populists, borderline nazis who will burn a lot of things down.

And monetary union etc. is a very difficult concept to describe to regular people.

It's rational that people are attached to the 'concept of Europe' and worry about it being taken away from them, even though 'The EU is not Europe'.

One solution: a 'Periphery EU' status for UK, Norway, Switzerland - but ALSO - Morocco, Algeria, Turkey, Armenia, Georgia etc..

'EU light' could give the option for other states like Greece to downgrade into, maybe something could come out of that.

A more open Europe that somehow got over the 'immigration' problem could really integrate these huge new middle eastern areas, and maybe even a couple of African States.

It could be the biggest economy in the world.