Java is memory efficient [audio]

For a definition of "efficient" that isn't shared by anyone else. This isn't a new rationale either, but a well known trade-off involved with JIT compilation and garbage collection. It's the reason Chrome "hogs" memory and Firefox is perceived as slow: they make different resource usage tradeoffs.

It will be interesting to see if the current memory crunch will impact this calculus going forward.

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> But what's the point in leaving available memory on the table if using it makes your program run faster? Efficient use of that resource wouldn't be to leave it untapped but to use it to speed up the program.

What’s the point of having a host with available memory? In today’s clouds, couldn’t you just downsize the host, and save on cost?

so its not memory efficient then...and nowadays the bottleneck is in memory access not cpu cycles, so the claim more memory use speeds up compute is very doubtful

Java was designed to make manual memory management a non-concern. Yet, ironically, it's the runtime that require more explicit memory tuning than any others.

I agree with all the general principles, but the details of Java do matter here. There is a reason they're working hard on Project Valhalla: https://openjdk.org/projects/valhalla/