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nater5000today at 8:50 PM1 replyview on HN

I think there's two factors that are worth considering when it comes to this:

First, there's an element of timeliness that simply has hard constraints. In order to perform a "proper" analysis of this situation (i.e., little to no dependence on AI tools), you'd have to expect a pretty long wait. I know I'd rather have some sort of "initial report" as quickly as possible than to wait a year or two to get a report about a situation that will likely look trivial in a year or two. I imagine we'll see more detailed, human-developed reports over longer time ranges.

Second, I suspect the expectation of non-AI driven reporting of these kinds of things will definitely decline rapidly as everything scales up quickly. I mean, the data being produced by situations like this comes in the form of natural language "forum posts" (so to speak), but done at an autonomous scale. This isn't a collection of emails and Slack messages posted by humans in an org over the course of a few months; this is a bunch of bots interacting with each other in relatively novel ways as quickly as possible. It is, unfortunately, a perfect job for LLMs.

None of this disagrees with your points, necessarily. But I just think it's worth pointing out that this doesn't seem like a case of "And look! METR is so confident in LLMs that we're able to use it instead of paying humans to save a buck :D" and more of "Without LLMs, we'd only be half-way done analyzing this data before there are dozens more such investigations on the docket, so this will have to do."


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beepbooptheorytoday at 10:53 PM

They point out the time constraint issue explicitly in the article. But I don't understand how it's been addressed? Like we haven't gotten conclusive data any faster either way, so what's the point?

How can it be both so important that we need it so quickly, but at the same time have such a tolerance for such plausible deniability? It just doesn't really make sense that both those things are true at the same time.

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