logoalt Hacker News

adolphyesterday at 6:57 PM3 repliesview on HN

It seems as though Pluto's primary problem is "clearing the neighbourhood." Given Pluto's orbit travels closer and further from the sun than Neptune, does Neptune also have the neighborhood clearing problem since it has not cleared Pluto?

  In celestial mechanics, "clearing the neighbourhood" (or dynamical dominance) 
  around a celestial body's orbit describes the body becoming gravitationally 
  dominant such that there are no other bodies of comparable size other than 
  its natural satellites or those otherwise under its gravitational influence.[0]
  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearing_the_neighbourhood

Replies

drxzclyesterday at 7:03 PM

Trans-neptunian objects, including Pluto, are in orbital resonance. They owe their stable orbits to the existence of Neptune.

It’s like saying Jupiter is not a planet because the Trojans exist.

show 1 reply
andrewflnryesterday at 7:16 PM

The "Criteria" section of that article clarifies the question. Neptune holds Pluto in an orbital resonance, which qualifies as Neptune gravitationally dominating its neighborhood. Perfect, 100% clearance is not expected anyway, since that's basically impossible in a real, dirty world where things move around.

vova_hn2yesterday at 7:35 PM

> other bodies of comparable size

In addition to what other commenters said about orbital resonance: Neptune has approximately 20 times bigger radius and is about 10_000 (ten thousand) times heavier. This is comparable to difference in mass between a human and a hummingbird. Could we really call them "comparable size"? I'm not sure, this is not a particularly precise term, but I would say - no.