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Aurornisyesterday at 7:42 PM4 repliesview on HN

The options available across the board are getting cheaper and better all the time.

There is no reason to believe that equivalent level model output will be more expensive in 12 months, let alone almost 4 years from now.

Of all the good reasons to use local AI (privacy, etc), worrying about not having access to cheap models in 4 years is not one of them.


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overfeedyesterday at 8:25 PM

> There is no reason to believe that equivalent level model output will be more expensive in 12 months

It's almost never a drop-in replacement, and having to check and adjust integrations and workflows with new models gets old fast. My task was perfectly solved by the old model, I don't need a newer, "better" one - especially at higher prices ("more cost-effective" my foot). Local models lets one choose a model and freeze the downstream integrations forever, without being forced on the 6/8-month upgrade treadmill by aggressively short, scarcity-driven hosted model-deprecation schedules.

mixmastamykyesterday at 9:06 PM

The big providers are losing on average tens of billions a year on these services, so yes prices must go up. Even Moore’s won’t help in the medium-term due to shortages and difficulty/reluctance to vastly increase capacity.

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wilkystyleyesterday at 9:28 PM

Surely you cannot possibly believe there is no reason.

Don't get me wrong: I hope you are right, and I am generally optimistic about the future of AI.

But do you really think, in a world filled with examples of big software companies repeatedly taking away or hamstringing capabilities we've taken for granted, that you can just count on a big tech company hosting cheap inference on incredibly powerful models forever? Surely we have learned by now that these companies do not exist to provide a public service to us, and the government cannot always be counted on to have the best interests of the citizens in mind.

I mean, how many times have we seen this in just the past decade or two?

- Consistent attempts to pass legislation weakening or banning the use of encryption

- Exorbitant Reddit API pricing (still salty about the death of the amazing Apollo app)

- Google fighting against sideloading on android

- US gov't issuing export control directive to suspend access to Fable/Mythos

- US lawmakers considering ways to regulate adoption of open weight models

- Chinese officials considering restricting overseas access to their most advanced models

I can absolutely see a much more restricted, closed down, and expensive future due to a combination of government regulations (regardless of which nation is doing it) and big companies rug-pulling as the check comes due on all the billions of dollars spent to get here.

hydropaxyesterday at 9:55 PM

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