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throw0101ayesterday at 10:28 PM1 replyview on HN

> If anything, NAT has saved millions of wildly insecure devices running unpatched old Windows versions from getting pwned the second they connect to the open internet.

You can have a stateful firewall that blocks non-established-connection packs and all your publicly addressable devices would not be reachable. NAT ≠ firewall (though they often glommed together on CPEs).

And NAT is also giving a false sense of security in some ways: "this device has an RFC 1918 address so is not reachable, and therefore safe". Yeah, except if another device already on the inside is / gets compromised. Perhaps if everything had a public address folks would be more circumspect.


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icedchaiyesterday at 11:01 PM

Generally, firewalls aren't going to save you from an internal compromise either. Are you giving each device its own VLAN, subnet, etc?

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