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evilmathkidtoday at 11:24 AM2 repliesview on HN

Hi! Author here. Surprised to see this on HN now. Happy to answer any questions!

Some context about this:

- This is NOT an LLM. its a small ar transformer trained from scratch. One of the points was that extremely complex problems can be tackled without LLMs

- Till the v1 of this result, this benchmark was only scaled by LLMs or their finetunes (ofc w enormous training costs). Other attempts performed okayish but used v complex architectures or extremely high amounts of training compute. No one expected a simple AR transformer to perform this well, at this low cost and w these few training samples.

- Sample Efficiency is one of the most important unsolved problems today in AI. That's what I was targetting with this work. We know it is easy to increase SE by increasing compute/params, so it was important to constrain cost as much as possible (also why OpenAI's Parameter Golf had fixed compute and why Modded NanoGPT is considered very sample efficient)

- Can the perf be improved? Yes but the competition is ongoing so can't talk about it

- Personally I think today's frontier models can be beat by training from scratch. Haven't proved this yet tho

- Fun: I was new to ML when I posted this first (dec '25). I basically used ARC as a way to learn ML


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kuczmamatoday at 11:31 AM

Hey thanks for sharing this. Was curious did you find the more you trained the model the more perf improved, or did it start plateauing. For example, let's say you didn't spend 67 cents, but you spent 67 dollars do you think you would get major benefits from that?

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asablatoday at 11:48 AM

Thank you for answering these questions. Looking forward for the next write up about this.