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Play Store blocks AuroraStore, hurting GrapheneOS users

341 pointsby erikvanoostentoday at 3:55 PM126 commentsview on HN

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pyrophanetoday at 4:27 PM

GrapheneOS actually recommends against using Aurora and instead just using the Play Store, so this shouldn't really hurt users.

For extra privacy, you can sign into the Play Store with a Google Account that isn't tied to anything else.

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troyvittoday at 4:37 PM

I use Aurora on GOS. I get that they say sandboxed Play is more secure than Aurora, but I prefer it for its lack of toxicity and absence of shitty dark patterns.

I think the increased popularity of GOS is going to draw in more users like me who picked it for reasons adjacent to Graphene's original purpose, and I hope it's not too annoying for their community.

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kjander79today at 4:25 PM

I feel the title editorializes a bit too much. The thread only confirms the bug, not a specific cause yet. As sibling comments indicate, the effect on GrapheneOS users is undetermined.

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skeledrewtoday at 4:42 PM

I've been stuck with unupdated apps because Aurora hasn't been working for me for a while. A few of them have been nagging me to update. I have everything Google disabled or removed, and no I won't reenable any of it. Also I use anon strictly on Aurora, and no I won't login with my Google account; haven't logged in on a phone for over 8 years now and I have no intention of breaking the streak.

ssernikktoday at 5:38 PM

I maintain my grandmothers phone, which comes down mostly to just updating WhatsApp once in a while. Obviously she doesn't have a google account, so I've installed her AuroraStore.

It's a shame that there is no official way to install apps on android without a google accout[1], since it's a basic functionality, just like calls or a web browser.

[1] For obvious reasons I don't want her to download apks from the internet.

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denzentoday at 4:47 PM

Using lineageos on an old samsung without any google services, I guess this would impact many "degoogled" users as well

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CodesInChaostoday at 4:47 PM

For me anonymous use of Aurora never really worked, and with a google account it still works.

kruncktoday at 5:52 PM

Yep broken on my /e/OS device too.

erikvanoostentoday at 5:50 PM

Okay, it was a bit of clickbait. Didn't expect it to be picked up like this.

Mistake from me: apparently GrapheneOS does not recommend Aurora Store (citation needed). Kind of weird though; it means Google still knows a lot about you, which doesn't seem very privacy conscience.

Google blocking Aurora Store was a conclusion made in the bug thread. It was not my conclusion.

And for the nit pickers: Sailfish OS is not Android, but its emulation layer _is_. :shrug: Even though Sailfish is nice, without its Android layer it is practically unusable.

Funny thing: the 'busy server' problem existed for almost a week. I could download 1 app per day max on my Jolla C2. But just now, now that this thread makes top of Hackernews, everything started working just fine!

westurnertoday at 6:50 PM

Web Native then. App Stores are lame anyway.

Try and find a category for "open source" apps on any app store.

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ChrisArchitecttoday at 4:47 PM

Title is: Aurora Store returns a “&$Server busy, please try again later.” error

thataccounttoday at 5:52 PM

Looks like the same thing is true for Calyx.

ChocolateGodtoday at 4:51 PM

So an app that uses an unofficial API broke when that API changed?

Not news nor "blocking".

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kotaKattoday at 4:29 PM

Didn't Epic get some kind of magic injunction saying that Google had to allow open access to the entire Play Store catalogue or something?

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_leomtoday at 5:00 PM

This happened to me but then got fixed the day later

zoobabtoday at 5:56 PM

From bad to worse.

okokwhatevertoday at 6:12 PM

Sadly I'm gonna have to migrate again to an ios device...

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ranger_dangertoday at 4:52 PM

> Aurora uses burner account for anonymous login. looks like their account pool is flagged

This seems like it was destined to get banned somehow... and I don't think it means that the store itself is blocked, just the pool of accounts they (ab)use.

lenerdenatortoday at 5:34 PM

Remember when people kept justifying Android over Windows Phone/Maemo/WebOS/BlackBerry/FirefoxOS on the grounds that it was free and open source software, infinitely customizable, and that Google was a good-faith partner who wanted openness in the mobile market?

Good times, good times.

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shevy-javatoday at 5:05 PM

Google becomes more and more evil by the second now.

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v1ztoday at 4:34 PM

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erikvanoostentoday at 3:55 PM

Android distributions that recommend AuroraStore (such as Graphene OS and Sailfish OS) are now mostly blocked by Google Play Store.

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