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woodruffwtoday at 2:28 AM1 replyview on HN

I don’t think these mental states are in evidence for either of them. I think they’re both credibly earnest in their views.

(Frankfurt’s characterization of the bullshitter rests on not just the truth value being absent, but also on the bullshitter’s misrepresentation of what he’s “up to.” I don’t feel that either Zitron or Altman is misrepresenting what they’re getting up to.)


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getnormalitytoday at 2:35 AM

So, you don't see how someone could both be "credibly earnest" and misrepresenting what they're up to?

Do you think misrepresentation has to be consciously deceptive? That it feels insincere to the person doing it?

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