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Dititoday at 2:09 PM5 repliesview on HN

This gets posted literally moments before I was about to pay them after ditching Claude. Thank you! I hate data collection in paid products.

I think I will be using Kagi Ultimate for the inference UI, so the data is somewhat anonymized before being collected.


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throwaway89201today at 2:15 PM

I'm really hoping Mistral will succeed with their open models, so I'm a bit biased, but I don't have any affiliation. This submit is a bit of well-meaning but confused scaremongering however.

Mistral has had, and continues to have, a toggle in the admin settings that permanently disables training on your data. The option has not been removed, and previous opt-outs are still honored. As far as I know, Mistral always trained on your data by default except for the enterprise plan, with the option to disable it on all plans, and with the option for organizations to make the choice for all your users.

Kagi Ultimate still uses mostly closed models by OpenAI / Anthropic, etc.

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teiferertoday at 3:05 PM

> I hate data collection in paid products.

You can opt out in this one.

evanjrowleytoday at 2:24 PM

My best experience with Mistral has been with their expensive GLM-5.2 model. It's actually developed by Z.ai, but unlike Z.ai, the GLM-5.2 at Mistral can be used at a low price without training on your prompts - but only if you remember to hit the privacy toggle in their admin settings.

Planning code changes with GLM-5.2 using a Mistral Studio API key and implementing code changes using the Mistral Vibe API key has worked well for me. At my basic subscription tier, Vibe will share data with Mistral. It works for me because, when it comes to privacy, I care less about the actual code and more about the planning / high-level stuff.

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saaaaaamtoday at 2:28 PM

You can opt out.

rvztoday at 2:53 PM

Just run your LLMs locally instead of using external providers.

Using Claude, Mistral and the rest of them is not going to solve your issue with data collection.