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sgttoday at 6:30 PM3 repliesview on HN

> 1. That person owns a smartphone (which is at least a couple hundred dollars).

I live in South Africa, and even the poor townships are full of smartphones these days. My gardener has a fairly recent Samsung. They literally borrow money to buy these things. So if they can afford it, so can you.

It's not that I don't get your point though - it could easily be seen as unnecessary spending when you have all kinds of expenses. But sooner or later, smartphones have become a necessity to get on with life.


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Ancalagontoday at 6:33 PM

Affordability is not the OP's point.

libriatoday at 6:54 PM

I don't disagree with you main point but thought this was funny:

> They literally borrow money to buy these things. So if they can afford it,

Borrowing money would indicate they can't afford it. But I think you mean "afford the risk in order to achieve a societal norm".

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gwbas1ctoday at 7:18 PM

It's not about the money, it's about time.

Requiring an app to do things often is more time consuming (and unpleasant) than doing it without the app. Other times, the app is so poorly written that it's not worth using.

Once the novelty of "the new toy" (smartphone) wears off, using a smartphone when it's not needed becomes a burden.

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For example, in the case of restaurants, I do not want to pull out my phone when I am having a conversation with people, therefore, I am greatly insulted when a restaurant requires a QR code to see a menu. I flat out ask for a menu, it's part of the joy of eating out.

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Edit: I can certainly understand the need to tell someone, "get with the program, get a smart phone." Back when they were getting popular in the US, a stranger asked me for directions on a busy street. I told her where to go, but she "clung" to me and wanted me to show her. This was when I point blank told her that it's time to get a smartphone.