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enragedcactitoday at 8:12 PM0 repliesview on HN

> It's a consistent pattern; push the envelope for emissions, deal with the powertrain problems via class action.

Sure, I can definitely see that being a pattern, especially for things like modern Diesel emissions systems that are notoriously unreliable. I just haven't seen that pattern materialize for start-stop. You found the same recall I did, which for the mast majority of people was fixed with just a software update. Where are the class actions for these shoddily designed systems?