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HAL3000today at 8:00 PM2 repliesview on HN

Finally, OpenAI has a Fable/Mythos class model. 5.6 Sol felt like 5.5 on steroids, probably just a different checkpoint with a lot more RL post training.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are some conceptual similarities to the kind of latent reasoning Anthropic sees in claude's J-space, although those aren't the same thing.

Recurrent/looped transformers themselves aren't a new concept, but it's interesting to finally see this approach show up in a frontier production model.

Canceling my Anthropic Max sub when this ships.


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atonsetoday at 8:05 PM

yeah i'm wondering the same way... especially in light of the 20x debacle (where we found that 20x of Max vs 5x only applies to the 5hr limit, not the weekly limit, whereas OpenAI's 20x actually is 20x overall).

Also Opus 5 has been really tough to work with. I can't understand half of what it says, it's just so damn obscure.

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CSMastermindtoday at 9:03 PM

Sol easily outperforms Fable on every task I've tried it on.

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