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jqpabc123today at 1:03 PM5 repliesview on HN

The new $650 Fairphone Gen 6+ is designed both for longevity and easy repairability.

I applaud the concept but to see how well this actually holds up in the real world, let's check the Fairphone web site.

Where are the parts to repair any version prior to Gen 6? I don't see them listed anywhere.

So it would appear that "longevity" is actually pretty limited.


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thgtoday at 1:13 PM

Fairphone 4 (2021) parts: https://www.fairphone.com/shop/category/spare-parts-4?catego...

Fairphone 5 (2023) parts: https://www.fairphone.com/shop/category/spare-parts-4?catego...

Parts for the Fairphone 2 (2015) and Fairphone 3 (2019) aren't available anymore, but I suppose that's not all that surprising after 11 respective 7 years.

Afair, they started running out of some Fairphone 3 spare parts around 2024 and kept the ones they still had for warranty repairs. Source: I own one (and switched to the Fairphone 6 early this year).

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rpdillontoday at 1:16 PM

This is a good point. Ifixit has guides for all the phones, but it reports that none of the replacement parts are actually sold in the United States.

https://www.ifixit.com/Device/Fairphone

Reminds me of the cold steel throwing axe that I bought that specifically has replaceable handles in case you break one. No one actually sells the handles though!

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VileSquirreltoday at 1:13 PM

It's in shop --> "all parts" (under the "spare parts" header)

Here are the ones for the fairphone 4: https://www.fairphone.com/shop/category/spare-parts-4?catego...

I however couldn't find the ones for the fairphone 3. The fairphone 4 is from 2021, which is not that old.

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MegaDeKaytoday at 1:14 PM

A simple Google search showed they are right here: https://www.fairphone.com/spare-parts

cgetoday at 1:44 PM

When I had a Fairphone 4, regulars on the community forum repeatedly reminded everyone that repairability was not a primary goal of Fairphone, ethical consumerism was, and any longevity and repairability was secondary or coincidental.

Yes, that goes against most of Fairphone's own advertising, but it was consistent with my experience of the phone and discussions on the forum: security updates frequently so far out of date that some software could not be run, flimsy components inconsistent with advertising (yes, the battery was nominally swappable, but the snaps on the back would break easily, and support would claim that it was not intended to be removed regularly), parts that were frequently out of stock, and of course, whole new phone designs every generation rather than Framework-like component upgrades.

It seems like they may have improved since then, but those problems, along with the atrocious security (FP4 used AOSP's public test signing keys, with publicly-available private keys, for its firmware) and sketchiness around specs, standards and openness (especially for the camera), generally turned me off the company.