I think the facts are the facts. The facts I’m referring to is that this wiki was written to on an enormous scale by agents. Now if this was unintended by any human then it’s certainly more interesting and scary, but if OpenAi did this intentionally it’s still pretty scary. The thing still happened.

I suppose nobody sane would give their AI internet access (even read) while training it. Though if they did, I don't think they'd want this to be public, because how can you even protect against this?

Honestly I'm also surprised by how blindly people trust these allegations of agent behavior. This exact example of the message board could be much easier to fabricate than to arise naturally.