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syntaxing • 09/04/2026 • 6 replies • view on HN

I swear, Qwen 3.8 27B @ Q8 is smarter than Sonnet 5 most of the time. Why wouldn’t corporate America self host at this point, especially with better options like Deepseek Flash and GLM 5.3 flash that’s a middle ground between Sonnet and Opus


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majorchord • 09/04/2026

Agreed. And conversely, American models can also just as easily be secretly influenced for bad things, or be more tightly controlled by the government, to corporate America's own detriment.

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SamInTheShell • 09/04/2026

@q4 is definitely smarter than sonnet from what I’ve seen so far. It’s even caught problems in code made by fable, when using it as a code reviewer.

Henchman21 • 09/04/2026

> Why wouldn’t corporate America self host at this point

Because they've been trained to think "cloud-first" for a decade?

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r_lee • 09/04/2026

is this actually the case? I haven't kept up with the small models

but if there's roughly Sonnet 4.6 level capable open small models, then I'd be impressed

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skybrian • 09/05/2026

Why not Luna?

spopejoy • 09/06/2026

I mean, why self-host? Deepseek v4 flash is dirt-cheap on openrouter. Inference is a race to the bottom at this point.