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woodgalatoday at 2:46 PM2 repliesview on HN

What about energystar? That had significant impact. Remember how we fixed the ozone hole? It’s entirely possible to drive change through policy or community. We just choose not to do it because the Epstein class wants culture war not class war.


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martinpwtoday at 5:50 PM

I had thought this administration had killed energy star, but it seems like it actually survived. A rare piece of good news:

https://www.npr.org/2026/02/03/nx-s1-5684126/energy-star-tru...

epistasistoday at 2:50 PM

Yes, policy does change things!! You give examples where a community got together, changed policy, affecting all of society.

This is precisely the opposite of the disastrous 2020s action, which had no concrete policy demands, which leaned into the culture war. They ceded the ground to the right wing, who does that sort of culture war much better, as they have focused their efforts on it for so long.

With culture war, no policy changes. The fight takes place in vibes.

We need policy, execution in concrete changes of physical things in the real world. That's where Sunrise and XR failed.

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