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roughlytoday at 3:50 PM2 repliesview on HN

I think the conversation here is making me more depressed than the news. The number of people who don’t believe collective action is possible, who somehow believe the current techno-capitalist model is determined by god or history or whatever, who don’t have any particular knowledge about history, economic development, etc but are very happy to very loudly yell that the only thing we can do is more of the same but maybe faster - man, y’all call yourselves hackers, but you sure are an incurious and gullible lot.


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dariosalvi78today at 5:11 PM

climate change became to be discussed as an issue since the 80s. I am in my late 40s and I have been hearing about since forever, and yet so little has been done since then. Now you can understand why I, as probably many here, have zero faith in this being solved in any sensible way.

Go and get depressed... or maybe go and eat your Brazilian meat burger, drive your SUV and book your flight to Hawaii, it won't last long.

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senordevnyctoday at 4:07 PM

Can you point to any examples where democratic populations have engaged in the kinds of sacrifice at scale needed to avert this problem?

Do you have any specific, actionable proposals to solve this problem that don’t rely on us magically solving the collective action problem?

A vague sense that “we can do it if we just try!” is no better than what you’re decrying.

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