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Research acceleration: The view inside OpenAI

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carbonguytoday at 8:26 PM

> ... We are pursuing this work in part because automated research could help us solve alignment and build defenses against increasingly capable AI. An automated AI researcher can also be an automated safety or alignment researcher. More capable, aligned systems could help secure critical infrastructure, defend against dangerous AI agents, and develop new protective measures.

In other words... "We must pursue advancements in AI to protect us against advancements in AI?"

edit: there's so much to be critical of in this blog post, just going to throw two more points in here that really stood out to me:

1) all of the metrics are effectively pointing out "we're using way more AI!" - but nothing about impact. What has all this token burn done for them, actually? Let them claim they have more self-licking ice-cream cones than before?

2) in section 3 they break down what the token burn is going towards. Most of the spend is: a) building, b) documenting, and c) monitoring research infra i.e. they're using AI systems which they already recognize may be misaligned to build the systems that they believe will help them identify future misalignment? to which I guess the rebuttal is "no no, we're sure these ones are aligned!"

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hedgehogtoday at 5:59 PM

This roughly lines up with my personal experience that in March a combination of stronger models and better tooling on my end let me start running jobs unattended 24/7 (using Anthropic sub and my own hardware). Their $8000/day per researcher spend is crazy though, I'm curious how they keep track of the work.

Jeff_Browntoday at 4:58 PM

The burning question I can't get any information nn is whether, if they determined an earlier misaligned generation may have transmitted misalignment to the current models, they would roll back to a safe checkpoint to rebuild from there. I suspect they would not unless forced to.

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simonwtoday at 4:57 PM

My eye glazed over a bit during the opening paragraphs, but once you get to the meat of the article about how OpenAI's own researchers are using their tools it gets a lot more interesting.

I noted that they use the acronym RSI (for Recursive Self-Improvement) without defining it. I think that's a little out of touch - I don't think RSI is a well-known acronym outside of OpenAI's bubble yet.

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