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skybriantoday at 6:15 PM2 repliesview on HN

"Defensive systems" can be interpreted broadly to include cybersecurity.

But yes, it's an arms race. Saying it's not an arms race isn't going to make it not an arms race. Warning that it is an arms race isn't ethically wrong.

Is participating in an arms race ethically wrong? Maybe you could ask the Ukrainians how they feel about drone R&D?

Individuals can quit, but for society, getting out of an arms race is harder than just quitting. You don't get to be Switzerland without having a strong defensive position and the right foreign relations.

But there's at least talk about "pacing" and that's a start.


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Fraterkestoday at 7:40 PM

The point of the comment you're responding to is that it is at this point hardly an arms race: The frontier of ai development is happening completely inside 2 American companies, the most significant results outside America mostly involve (impressive!) distillation, which means their progress is conditional on progress of the big closed source models.

So if the race here is between 2 American companies, this is obviously something that can be resolved with legislation, ie a solution that doesn't depend on the bargaining power of either party.

An arms race implies that the only solution would be either one side winning decisively, or both parties negotiating peace.

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goatlovertoday at 8:25 PM

The arms race is created by American companies who justify the risk by claiming China will win the race if they don't. But it's the American companies who are purshing the arms race forward.