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chrisjjtoday at 8:06 PM0 repliesview on HN

> a lot of the model’s capability comes from a verbalized reasoning process

I call bullsh*t. There is no verbalisation of any reasoning process. Verbalisation, e.g. putting reasoning etc. into words requires some reasoning to exist. These LLMs have nothing but the words. That's why they are language models not e.g. reason models.