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GrapheneOS Overhauled Default Apps and Secure Clipboard

221 pointsby Cider9986yesterday at 8:24 PM165 commentsview on HN

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cwillutoday at 1:02 AM

“We'll be making a new release later today with a completely overhauled user interface written in ‹whatever›” is something developers love, and users fear.

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pizzaioloyesterday at 11:02 PM

Graphene is clearly bullish on Android, but I have no idea why. The writing is on the wall, Google is slowly asphyxiating AOSP.

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lucb1eyesterday at 10:33 PM

Ctrl+f clipboard, no results. What does "Secure Clipboard" in the title refer to?

The release seems to be only the SMS/RCS app, rest is future:

> We're also going to be overhauling or fully replacing the rest of the AOSP apps in the near future. AOSP Gallery is incredibly outdated and is being entirely replaced. AOSP Keyboard may be similar. We recently hired a bunch of new people and will be hiring more so our progress will be accelerating.

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ravenstineyesterday at 10:48 PM

I hope they replace the AOSP keyboard with FUTO keyboard. I'm mostly fine with the other stock apps, but that keyboard was the one thing I absolutely had to end up replacing due to its jenky behavior.

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goda90yesterday at 9:25 PM

I believe this is the planned gallery app. I've already been using it: https://github.com/IacobIonut01/ReFra

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drnick1yesterday at 10:42 PM

Certainly, with Opus 5 and GPT-6, modernizing or even completely rewriting self-contained, non-critical tools seems like a Friday afternoon job now. I wonder however how important this is, in the grand scheme of things. I use GrapheneOS and the bundled messaging app is serviceable. It isn't pretty, but it gets the job done.

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kotaKatyesterday at 9:07 PM

"RCS isn't an open platform in practice. It isn't even as open as SMS/MMS. It heavily depends on proprietary Google and carrier infrastructure in practice. We can start by replicating Google's approach and then we can work on only using carrier services for carriers where it's actually supported."

Except... what carriers still remain using their own RCS carrier services and haven't been pressured by Google to adopt Jive?

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exceptioneyesterday at 9:07 PM

  > RCS isn't an open platform in practice. It isn't even as open as SMS/MMS. It heavily depends on proprietary Google and carrier infrastructure in practice. We can start by replicating Google's approach and then we can work on only using carrier services for carriers where it's actually supported.
What is the point of RCS though? It seems to be strictly inferior to Signal. It seems a Google product meant to serve Google. I wouldn't hate it if GrapheneOS would totally ignore RCS. I fail to see any value in it, but maybe I am lacking information(?)
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water-drummertoday at 3:42 AM

Funny reading those anti-LLM comments, lol

andrepdyesterday at 9:30 PM

There are excellent FOSS gallery apps already, like the Fossify suite. Why not use them I wonder?

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0pointstoday at 12:03 AM

Maybe I'm old school but

big announcement

> We're well into the process of converting the Messaging app included in GrapheneOS into a modern app.

> We'll be making a new release later today

Back in my day this would not make for excitement. On the contrary. (We would expect months/years? of release candidates, test releases and such after such big rewrite)

How come a recognized brand such as GrapheneOS speak like this?

Have their leadership fallen to AI psychosis too?

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TZubiritoday at 2:43 AM

Piece of garbage software, it encrypts your device and has a button for wiping the device clean. This has been used by someone at a border inspection... Which amounted to destruction of evidence/evidence tampering. All of this is apparently by design, not some obscure misuse of the technology.

Even if you believe that customs is immoral or whatever, it is a strategic blunder to use such a button, if your device is properly encrypted it's virtually inaccessible, the only thing wiping the device does is add a criminal charge.

If you wanna larp, at least larp as someone smart, not someone that fabricates a criminal charge out of a routine inspection.

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IshKebabyesterday at 9:05 PM

Very good idea! Google abandoned these long ago.

I don't really get why so many Americans want RCS to succeed though. Do you guys not remember when carriers charged 10p/text? Why on earth would you want to give any power at all back to those people?

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thinkp26yesterday at 9:07 PM

I'm happy todays update shipped auto call recording.

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