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'You Can See Everything' Review: Nathan Fielder's Doc About Elizabeth Holmes

259 pointsby cianmmtoday at 9:33 AM181 commentsview on HN

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xyzelementtoday at 11:01 AM

I have a distinctive memory about Theranos from business school - so circa 2013 a few years before it blew up.

Some professor was going on and on about Holmes for being a young, female, founder. It stood out at the moment as weird because the praise was separate from success or outcomes or like brilliant science. It was all about the identity: gender and age.

I wonder if the reason the scam went so far as it did because it was "shaped" exactly like what people were looking for, like what they were told the future of STEM was supposed to look like.

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jiaosdjftoday at 10:30 AM

I watched the entire trailer fully believing that Nathan Fielder had managed to find the most unhinged uncanny look-alike actress to play Elizabeth Holmes.

This trailer was so good that I would have been fully prepared to watch a 2 hour dramatised mockumentary about Theranos.

Finding out that this was really Elizabeth Holmes was a huge shock

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seabombstoday at 10:05 AM

Love everything Nathan Fielder does. The trailer is awesome.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GGJSRFWALTI

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nltoday at 10:13 AM

> But the more Holmes talks to Fielder, the more he teases out her unhinged rationale, which is: The device works fine! We just had to figure out that pesky chemistry stuff! The strange thing is that Holmes has such a corporate mindset that she treats the chemistry stuff…that hadn’t been invented yet…as just another glitchy small problem that could easily be solved

The difference between science and engineering right there...

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SOLAR_FIELDStoday at 3:55 PM

My favorite quote from the article:

> So he calls Amanda Seyfried, who sits and watches the scene we’ve just seen of Holmes sitting and watching Seyfried portray her.

This is so very Nathan Fielder. Perfect encapsulation of his unique brand of humor. Seyfried portrays Holmes, giving her interpretation of Holmes. Holmes watches the portrayal, giving her interpretation of Seyfried's interpretation. Seyfried watches Holmes' interpretation of Seyfried's interpretation of Holmes.

This vibe is basically the entire theme of The Rehearsal. It's an exercise in how many Matryoshka dolls we can un-nest in our meta exploration of the topic. Keep zooming out and re-view yourself in the scene you just played which is a super interesting way to discover things about yourself and others

mark_l_watsontoday at 12:32 PM

I watched a 90 second clip from this film earlier today: Holmes unblinking asking ‘Why would I deceive you…’ Really strange stuff. I have to admit that I watched the clip a second time.

vintagedavetoday at 2:06 PM

For those who are experts on body language, non-verbal communication, psychological communication tricks, etc -- what on earth are we seeing in that trailer?

ddmftoday at 11:02 AM

There was some major tension in the trailer - I can't believe that's actually Elizabeth Holmes, but seeing her I can see how she managed to win over so many - she is very intense.

saimiamtoday at 10:11 AM

Who’s “Bobby” mentioned in the article? Did the writer just mix up Billy Evans with Bobby?

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qseratoday at 12:24 PM

After this, there was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meredith_Perry of UBeam

qoeztoday at 11:14 AM

"That’s part of its appeal — it’s a one-of-a-kind reality-TV-as-hangout-movie psychodrama circus"

This is fable level unreadable to me

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elgertamtoday at 12:22 PM

Holmes seems to have the Harvard Business (MBA) mindset: science, R&D, engineering are just results to squeeze out of recalcitrant practitioners. Any failure in those domains is evidence only of the scientists' or engineers' refusal to align themselves with the Vision.

Despite not even finishing undergrad, she adopted this persona so naturally, including the black turtleneck and a Zuck-esque vocal inflection, that due diligence apparently defenestrated itself. Phyllis Gardner is the unsung hero who tried to warn the world, but the MBA mass-delusion was too strong.

fatbirdtoday at 4:06 PM

One thing that the earlier documentary on Theranos, The Inventor, made obvious is that Holmes is pretty charismatic at a personal level. At one point, Gibney is trying to interview her, but the camera he’s setting up isn’t working for some reason, and he’s apologizing. She says “it’s alright” and then leans in and says “we’re going to get through this” and smiles. It’s very warm. It was easier to see how people bought into her and her vision after that.

lapcattoday at 12:42 PM

Fielder's "The Rehearsal" on HBO was madly brilliant.

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goodJobWalrustoday at 12:57 PM

Who is Bobby the article keeps talking about? Her business partner's name was Sunny, and her husband is Billy.

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joebigtoday at 12:56 PM

Elizabeth Holmes Thanksgiving Visit: Family Time in Prison

https://www.memesita.com/elizabeth-holmes-thanksgiving-visit...

And wtf is even a "prison camp?"

iammjmtoday at 11:18 AM

Wow that is a one scary intense trailer. Hard to believe we are not witnessing some kind of serious psychopathology right there

sim04fultoday at 12:38 PM

This looks like another homerun for a24

DarmokTanagratoday at 12:02 PM

Imagine a world where we held Musk to the same standard as Holmes.

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postscapes1today at 2:50 PM

Is she not in jail right now?

Also why in her right mind would she sign up to do this with Fielder?

My brain hurts from this project.

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