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sschuellertoday at 10:59 AM6 repliesview on HN

Yet people who met her were stupid enough to think she is some kind of genius and gave her millions of dollars.

Sometimes I think if Charles Manson started a startup instead of killing people he would have had millions in investments and be praised as some sort of wunder kind...


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covercashtoday at 11:14 AM

Or Charles Manson could weasel his way into existing startups, claim them as his own, become the richest man in the world, AND kill so many more people than he ever thought possible!

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timcobbtoday at 12:42 PM

He could have done this if he was from a more privileged background for sure.

aa-jvtoday at 11:36 AM

>were stupid enough to think she is some kind of genius and gave her millions of dollars.

The tech industry is rife with such suckers. We wouldn't have the wealth we have without them.

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hackyhackytoday at 3:28 PM

> Sometimes I think if Charles Manson started a startup

We like to think we live in a meritocracy, but the fact so much of success is based on personality, manipulating people, being charming and persuasive, tapping into others' insecurities and ambitions.

Elizabeth Holmes is a symptom of the same basic human dysfunction that brought us Charles Manson and Donald Trump.

Relevant musical interlude: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0

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jiaosdjftoday at 12:19 PM

All founders and CEOs are like this, to the point that when I meet a person in leadership who clearly isn't a sociopath my default reaction is to assume that they're not successful.

The only reason I'm somewhat confident that I am not a sociopath is because I am still frequently presented business ideas that make me think "WTF how did you even think of that and why am I so angry that it's probably going to work"

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tantalortoday at 12:46 PM

Hot take: She is a genius.

Just not the kind of genius that can invent new products or lead a successful company.

If she had partnered with a competent engineer and CEO, Theranos might still be in business.

The company wasn't doomed from the start. It began with a real vision.

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