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Raed667today at 6:32 AM3 repliesview on HN

can you elaborate what are their fundamental flaws that are not fixable by funds?


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tristanjtoday at 7:55 AM

Chinese models are trained on dubiously collected model traces from Claude/OpenAI that are purchased from model routers. All the major Chinese models use this data. That's one reason they've been able to catch up with Anthropic/OpenAI so quickly, they have so much data.

Mistral can't train on that data, because this data would be illegal to purchase & train on in the EU.

alansabertoday at 6:36 AM

They've never made a near-frontier model. Which is a valid criticism for a model training company

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chronic7304today at 6:35 AM

> can you elaborate what are their fundamental flaws that are not fixable by funds?

Culture.

In terms of output, EU working culture is inferior to American/Chinese working culture.

Work life balance is irrelevant for frontier/sovereign AI.

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