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tangledtoday at 7:01 AM3 repliesview on HN

Europe absolutely needs a home-grown AI lab, especially with Pax Americana looking increasingly shaky.

LLMs embody value systems, and American and European values are not the same (yes, there are overlaps, but also key differences).

More nefariously, I can also imagine LLMs that silently degrade their reasoning when used in a national security context of a non-US country.

So, Mistral may not be competitive with OpenAI and Anthropic, but in many contexts that doesn’t matter. And, perhaps this gap could be closed with more funding (the three billion funding figure is a rounding error next to US labs). I’m sort of surprised that the EU isn’t stepping in to support them.


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fallingbanannatoday at 7:42 AM

>I’m sort of surprised that the EU isn’t stepping in to support them.

On a similar note: Why does it have to be the EU to step up?

Why doesn't EU rather speed up making VC investments more attractive, so that EU and banks don't do the majority of investing?

*I don't have answers to these questions. It just frustrates me how many investments here come from politicians and banks, rather than from investors, people, and companies.

andsoitistoday at 7:16 AM

> LLMs embody value systems, and American and European values are not the same (yes, there are overlaps, but also key differences).

There are also some areas where values across Europe are quite divergent. Think LGBT rights and social acceptance, religion & secularism, immigration & multiculturalism.

And countries don’t fall into neat “liberal west vs conservative east”. Spain is exceptionally liberal on LGBT issues while remaining more religious than some northern countries; Denmark is socially liberal but has adopted relatively restrictive immigration policies.

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dist-epochtoday at 7:49 AM

> with Pax Americana looking increasingly shaky.

that is being replaced with Pax Silica

https://www.state.gov/pax-silica

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