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kmitztoday at 1:00 PM5 repliesview on HN

PISA data show that students who use AI for specific schoolwork tasks, such as summarising texts, drafting or conducting research, attain lower scores in science than students who do not use AI.

See graphs on PISA 2025 homepage : https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/pisa-2025-results-volum...

So much for all the EdTech startups that want you to use their AI teachers. Seriously, this should be a major signal to keep screens and AI solutions out of classrooms. That's not solving everything but at least students would be given a few hours window of de-brainroting everyday. I'm open to accept that AI can have a positive impact on education but people and tools are apparently not ready and for the moment using it is a net negative.


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Aurornistoday at 1:24 PM

> So much for all the EdTech startups that want you to use their AI teachers.

The AI they’re talking about is not EdTech AI-based teaching tools. It’s students who use ChatGPT to handle work for them so they can ignore any teaching parts.

Apples and oranges. Using this study to draw conclusions about AI EdTech would be a mistake

zulbantoday at 1:19 PM

Sloppy conclusion about edtech startups.

If everyone is hiring a "tutor" to just do their homework for them, that doesn't mean that all tutors are bad.

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bmachotoday at 2:45 PM

> So much for all the EdTech startups that want you to use their AI teachers.

Kid pasting the question into ChatGPT and pasting its answer back is not the same as an AI teacher persona.

In my mind an AI teacher can be like a traditional education package (syllabus, material, questions, keeping track of progression) but way more flexible. I don't see no reason why AI teachers shouldn't give Bloom's 2 sigma effect to kids (and adults) very soon.

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nialsetoday at 1:33 PM

The "AI use ... To help me learn" graph is really interesting! It may be interpreted as showing moderate selective AI use being beneficial and, perhaps, even mitigating the effect of socioeconomic status, that is democratising the learning of science. However, it may also indicated that groups with low AI use/access are left behind, or at least that over-reliance on AI in learning is detrimental.

jfimtoday at 1:16 PM

The breakdown for AI usage is four categories though, not three. While the first three are negatively correlated with increased usage, the one for using AI "to help me learn" is much more flat when it comes to usage frequency.