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ishtanbulyesterday at 5:52 PM3 repliesview on HN

in the US. My LG TV has put up a giant TOS agreement thing and I can't use any apps until I agree. So I unplugged the ethernet cable and bought an Apple TV. problem solved?


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drnick1yesterday at 8:01 PM

> So I unplugged the ethernet cable and bought an Apple TV.

What makes you think the Apple TV is any better? I'd wager that Apple collects just as much telemetry.

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microtonalyesterday at 6:26 PM

For now. I wouldn't surprised that if enough people start doing this, they'll just put a cheap cellular modem in the TV. Or find open access points. Or make a deal with Amazon and others to exfiltrate information via a smart home speaker/assistant.

Technical solutions only go so far, at some point you have to put in place a regulatory framework that requires consent. The divergences between US-EU privacy policies, configuration screens, etc. show that the GDPR is slowly starting to do its work.

rickdeckardyesterday at 6:43 PM

What LG (and Samsung and all the other electronics companies) are doing is profiling the user to sell targeted advertising. This is technically not personal information, and that's a grey area for those companies when communicating to the public.

People here generally don't like to hear that, but Apple is doing the very same. There's even a study-paper on how they do this without collecting personal information [0]

So when a company yells out how it's not collecting your "personal information", the statement actually doesn't cover what has been discovered here from all I can decipher from this "research"

[0] https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/learning-with-pri...