Someone needs to name this fallacy. The existence of existing harmful norms does not, ex ante, justify introducing additional harmful norms. I propose naming it the "GenAI Defender Fallacy".

Separately--yes, I would love carbon receipts for everything. Such a system would be fascinating and do real good in this world.

Bad examples. Use meat consumption. It will blow any other kind of "non-essential" resource use out of the water, on ALL fronts.

It's really hard to believe that people care about the personal impact of their decisions, when it's only ever other peoples decisions that get talked about.

I personally would love them

that would be actually pretty cool and would cause more awareness for a lot of people. but something like this would go in both directions i am afraid, as with everything there surely would be people trying to do carbonmaxxing just for the sake of it, kind of like breaking a highscore. i am sure people like this already exist anyway, though.

And when my "Reddit energy consumption" rose because they migrated from old.reddit.com, to their new bloated frontend, that's _my fault_, right?

reddit used to shared how much gold purchases went towards their server costs (pretty sure it wasn't 100% accurate but at least good to an order of magnitude). It was approximately $1/hour and they served ~100M monthly active users. So I don't think those metrics would demonstrate how wasteful traditional data centers are like you think it would.

I'd love that. What if anything entertainment was required by law to have some value like that, with a standardized calculation?

this would be amazing, absolutely. Especially if they were able to see specifically where my power comes from, the embedded carbon in the chipsets used to serve my requests, all the costs associated with the datacenter(s), etc. A weekly breakdown would be excellent.

Absolutely, I'd love to see how tiny they are in comparison.

If said game, video, or social media site used 1-2.5 kWh of electricity for every 10s of content then I'd say definitely!

Thankfully web browsing is no where near that.

Sure, why not.

_This comment increased sea levels by 0.000000000003m_

Yes.

even the whataboutism is slop