alt Hacker NewsAlready a reality in mainland China, which is a country with very little street crime, grafitti, vandalism etc.
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> which is a country with very little street crime, grafitti, vandalism etc.
and a lot of human rights violations
There's very little of those things in most places.
It would be nice if there were less, but that change shouldn't come at a significant cost.
As an example, the FBI has data on $10-20 billion in property crimes per year in the US. Wow, that's a lot. Of course, there's probably $5-$10 trillion dollars of personal property.
One person’s graffiti and vandalism is another persons freedom of artistic expression. Like how music magically turns into “noise” when someone buys an apartment next to a lively gig venue.
Yes but can you voice your displeasure against the government if they target you? I prefer crime, grafitti and vandalism
There probably was very little street crime, graffiti, and vandalism in the German Democratic Republic and in the USSR. And there very likely is little street crime in North Korea.
If the benefits can be had at too high a price, that doesn't make the price worth paying.
>China, which is a country with very little street crime, grafitti, vandalism etc
And very little ability for anyone or any group of people from any walk of life to resist getting screwed by the government if the government chooses to screw them.
The long term cost of putting locks on doors and bars on windows and all the other things that need to be done to deter small scale crime is peanuts compared to the cost of giving up the ability to disobey the government and work counter to the government with a low likelihood of being caught so long as one's profile is low.
I know that by putting it so plainly I'm gonna piss off a lot of people and draw the ire of many who want to see their favorite rules enforces with an iron fist at low cost. I don't care. I have judged those people to have bad ideas and bad morals and they are fundamentally bad people so long as they maintain them.
I've been to many places in Italy that have scary much CCTV.
mainland China is very big, what's the coverage like
or are you just making things up
The Already and The Whatabout, the two pillars of the Temple of Incrementalists.
Yeah but when our AI overlords rise up soon we don’t want to have this ready to hand over to them.
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Thanks, I’ll keep the graffiti and vandalism.