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Krasnoltoday at 12:22 PM2 repliesview on HN

Would you ask Joe and Anupam for their consent to be recorded?

I doubt it and this is the actual problem here with those glasses and now the watch.


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gumbytoday at 3:40 PM

Good question (I thought I implicitly mentioned it but I guess I didn’t).

Does it matter that we’re talking about “recording” within the envelope of typical human capability? I think that distinction does matter and the summary as described is within that region (note: we haven’t seen Apple’s product in the real world, and we know Meta’s is well outside human capability.

Remembering that you talked with Anupam and Joe about fishing is something people do.

Remembering most of the words uttered, specific phrases, etc (the hoary “on your permanent record” joke from RaRHS) is far outside human capability, which is why we have rules about actual recordings.

I consider this kind of capability a kind of prosthetic, like a hearing aid.

By the way I could have scribbled a little note after the conversation (I do this, though these days in my phone): “Joe, Anupam: fishing”. That’s a straight up (if extremely compressed) recording, but no, I would not ask permission for that either.

Not trying to persuade you BTW, just clarifying how I think about the solution space. But don’t forget that the camera case IS handled by human assistants today.

skinfaxitoday at 1:00 PM

Any friend or acquaintance that recorded without consent would probably not be in the friend group for much longer. If you don't trust your friends in the first place that seems the like problem to tackle.