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jshentoday at 5:32 PM3 repliesview on HN

This is very similar to George Lakoff's work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Lakoff

A good place to start for anyone that is interested is his book Metaphor's We Live By.


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HarHarVeryFunnytoday at 5:55 PM

Hoftstader's video is pressumably based on his own book "Fluid Concepts and Creative Analogies".

FLeXMurphytoday at 5:48 PM

> According to Lakoff, an individual's experience and attitude towards sociopolitical issues are influenced by being framed in linguistic constructions. In Metaphor and War: The Metaphor System Used to Justify War in the Persian Gulf (1991), he argued that the American involvement in the Persian Gulf War was obscured or "spun" by the metaphors which were used by the first Bush administration to justify it.[3] Between 2003 and 2008, Lakoff was involved with a progressive think tank, the now defunct Rockridge Institute.

I will never not find it amusing how a simple thing like money is obscured or "spun" by a thin veil of pseudointellectual bullshit.

goatlovertoday at 6:01 PM

Very interesting book. You don't really think about how often metaphors are employed in language, and their influence on how we think. The book makes some rather strong claims regarding science and philosophy being misled by metaphorical thinking, but still a good read.

And it's relevant today given how people like to anthropomorphize LLMs, and compare biology to digital machines we make. Of course there are similarities. But the point about metaphorical thinking is we are mislead by treating metaphors as literally true.

Anyway if the stronger claims in the book are at all true, it might impact how an alien species thinks differently than us (given a lot of our metaphors are biologically based). And could present significant difficulties for decoding an alien signal.

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