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michael0churchyesterday at 9:21 PM4 repliesview on HN

This goes beyond math. The external appearance is that OpenAI negligently or intentionally used user data against a user’s interests in a potentially career-altering way… for the marketing bump of an AI proof. The fact that it probably wasn’t intentional is irrelevant. Trust has been lost and this will ripple into communities where no one has heard of Navier Stokes.


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redwall_hpyesterday at 10:34 PM

The corporate espionage ring targeting Apple also isn't a good look. A company that does that is a company that will lie to you about harvesting internal materials from your company.

soundworldsyesterday at 10:06 PM

Can confirm, I had never heard of Navier-Stokes before this fiasco. And while I suspect OpenAI decided it was worth the risk for the public display of capability, this proves they are now directly competing against their own customers.

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user43928yesterday at 11:16 PM

How about the fact that it almost certainly did not happen?

I read today that OpenAI after investigation was able to categorically rule out that usage data from before beginning of July could have affected the system that was used.

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cmiles8yesterday at 10:49 PM

It already has. Inside just about every company on the planet are conversations this week revisiting the idea of giving these labs access to ANY data, further ramping up commentary on why don’t we just use open models on our own infra where we don’t have to “trust” anyone.

This PR stunt by OpenAI may go down in history as the thing that finally broke them for good.

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