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tmhn2today at 7:06 PM3 repliesview on HN

The issue of credit is a relatively minor point in the declaration.

It's more about bypassing the culture and processes mathematicians have developed that lead to human understanding, generating new ideas, and bringing up new generations of mathematicians. (See also his article about "non-renewable mining" of good problems.)

Reducing mathematics to "let's just generate results through an isolated and automated system" is a misalignment since it bypasses those processes.


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jrflotoday at 7:21 PM

I don't think it really attacks human understanding though. You can still read and understand an AI written proof. If another person comes up with a solution to a problem, you can read their methods and understand it. It doesn't matter if a human came up with that or not. It's really only attacking the "generating new ideas" part.

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jeremysalwentoday at 8:39 PM

I agree that the declaration doesn't focus on credit, but I think it's still at the root of the problem. Because ask yourself: if the AI generated proofs are not creating any new ideas or insight, just brute forcing a boolean true/false result, then why can't mathematicians simply ignore their results? Why does it matter if OpenAI or even amateurs with AI are "solving" these problems, without contributing to any deeper understanding?

I don't think "intellectual poisoning" is really the mechanism that harms the mathematics community.

The harm is if you have a community of mathematicians who are focused on expanding human understanding, then having instant access to a bunch of AI proved results muddies the water about who has contributed what. If someone could scoop any significant theorem at any time by pointing an AI at it, how do you really demonstrate that you have created new understanding? Or that your new understanding is about something important? How do you prove that the AI needed your new concepts to be able to solve it?

jimkleibertoday at 7:13 PM

I wonder if this is a root of the complaints across fields, how AI is ruining the greater picture and process in writing, acting, drawing, filming, coding, and more.

That it makes life more ends and less means.

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