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delichontoday at 4:08 PM6 repliesview on HN

> Every euro of EU output now takes 44% less energy than it did in 1995, and more than a third of that improvement has landed since 2019.

This is positioned as the key fact of the whole argument, presented first and repeated. But they do not attempt an equivalent US figure. So here's mine.

https://www.eia.gov/totalenergy/data/monthly/pdf/sec1_19.pdf

  1K BTU Consumption per $ of GDP
  1995: 7.77
  2025: 4.04
4.04 / 7.77 ≈ 0.52, so the U.S. uses about 48% less energy per dollar than in 1995, versus 44% per euro for the EU. So pretty much the same as across the pond.

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karmakurtisaanitoday at 4:17 PM

And probably both of these can be explained largely by the fact that most of the energy intensive production happens now in Asia.

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carefree-bobtoday at 5:39 PM

It is not just the US, it is all industrial economies, because this is primarily a tech innovation story. Newer tech is more efficient, so over time the economy as a whole does more with the same energy input. Whether you are looking at car engines, or jet engines, or home insulation, there were massive strides in efficiency improvement across the board since 1995, that have nothing whatsoever to do with Europe, and in which Europe is not a notable standout.

In other words, the entire thesis of the article can be overturned by a quick google search.

Since the start of the conflict with Iran, I've been looking at the oilprice.com website for price information and am shocked at the poor quality of the news articles. Here are some other examples of either very low effort or factually misleading articles, just posted on the site today:

* https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/How-China-Became-... -- the entire article is just three bullet point factoids that don't say much about an economy that still gets half its energy from burning coal.

* https://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/AI-Boom-to-Boost-Sou... -- the entire article takes one consultancy report that says data center demand could boost Singapore and Malaysia's energy needs by 16%, and then engages in a reverie where the author imagines a number of other things that might be needed if this consultancy report is true.

* https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Canadian-Oil-Pushes-De... - a bizarre story in which nothing happened -- no one is pushing anywhere, rather the entire story is a series of graphs and charts discussing Canada's historical participation in US gulf coast oil industries over the long run, with no new announcement or action happening at all.

HWR_14today at 4:59 PM

Isn't this best explained by inflation. It seems like this implies that inflation adjusted GDP/energy remained pretty constant

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tmtvltoday at 4:24 PM

Interestingly you're looking at the wrong column: emissions per million USD GDP have gone from 467 metric tons to 206 metric tons. That's an improvement of about 56%. It'd be great if the politicians here in the EU could pull their heads out of their arses long enough to try and match that.

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PunchTornadotoday at 4:19 PM

Good point. One could counter with the fact that US transitioned to service based and software while EU kept the heavy industry (more) while doing the change