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Loughlayesterday at 6:15 PM4 repliesview on HN

>If that's the situation in, and it can't be stressed enough, a children soccer game

It's not extremely common in my area, but it is more common than you would think. Parents treat their children like lottery tickets when it comes to athletics. And God help you if you're the unfortunate umpire at a travel league game that makes a questionable call.

The youth sports industry is fucking gross and nobody seems to notice.

Source: we will not let our children participate in travel leagues and they do not want to participate in them either, for this specific reason.


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steveBK123yesterday at 6:26 PM

I umpired baseball in my early teens and even 30 years ago it was bad.

Grown men getting into the face of 14 years old umpires over calls, at games for kids barely out of tee-ball. It just doesn’t matter that much.

I remember a coach who would flip over 20 gallon coolers and send ice and drinks flying in the dugout.. in front of his team of 10 years old umpires olds.

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dylan604yesterday at 10:18 PM

I spent several years as a soccer ref including high school matches. It never failed that every time I hit my whistle, the side of the stadium opposite of the direction of me signaling the foul would always erupt in jeers. You could always tell the helicopter parents complaining about non-calls not appreciating that soccer is a contact sport. There was only one game where the officiating crew was escorted by police, but I really felt that was over blowing the situation. There was the one game were we had to temporarily suspend the match because of gunfire in the area not aimed at the pitch, but uncomfortably close.

The funny thing is, I became a ref because I was giving the ref of one of the games I was on the touchline coaching wasn't abusive, but definitely a constant barrage of second guessing. At the end of the match, one of the association members suggest that if I didn't like the level of refereeing that I should become a ref myself. I accepted the Pepsi challenge that rest of history. My favorite experience was a coach that was getting a bit grating. I remembered a line an old timer mentioned that I decided to give a try, "hey coach! you got an assistant? you better get 'em warmed up!"

As a coach, the absolute worst part of the 10 year experience absolutely was the parents. Luckily, I never had abusive parts. It was always over excited cheering for the dumbest things from people that had no clue about tactics and thinking that blindly booting the ball up the pitch was awesome. We had no player with the speed or skill of going over the top route one, so it was just a dumb play. Usually, by the end of the season some of the other parents could usually get them calmed down. It also helped to remind some of the over the top parents that this was recreational play, and everyone got the same t-shirt at the end of the season. Nobody was getting scholarships. It was basically bragging rights for the kids back at school.

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FireBeyondyesterday at 10:45 PM

Absolutely - I used to referee basketball in Australia, including at a high level.

Extremely high level junior, was generally not an issue. As was true local league.

It was the intermediates, the travel leagues. Where "your kid is good but is still not going to be a pro" (the NBA sends a letter to all new D1 college players congratulating them on the effort they've put in to get this far - and to focus on their education, as the NBA drafts <1% of D1 college players, let alone anybody else). Those were the ones where the parents were convinced that their kid was going to be a pro and the only thing holding him back was "that fucking referee".

We had the power to eject those parents from the venue. Which was usually a conversation that went something like this:

Ref: You need to leave the venue until the end of the game.

Parent: It's my fucking kid's game and I'm not leaving and you can't fucking make me.

Ref: You're right, I can't remove you from the venue. I can however forfeit the game on your child's behalf.

Kid: Daaaad. [usually weary as this tends not to happen just the once]. Go and wait in the car. Pleaseeeee.

Parent: I will go and wait in the car, and we're going to wait and when you come out, you and I are going to fucking get into it, ref.

Cue security, if not police, walking refs to their cars.

verve_ratyesterday at 9:04 PM

>youth sports industry

Yup, well there's your problem.