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Iranian banks' SSL certificates are being revoked due to OFAC sanctions

62 pointsby misanotoday at 5:58 PM84 commentsview on HN

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pibakertoday at 6:46 PM

Sanctions on Iran are justified. But I worry this kind of action will just lead to the eventual rise of an alternative tech ecosystem in the long term, probably led by china and Russia. It will be bad for us, bad for people living under those regimes, but good for the regimes themselves because they will have the fullest control over their technology, without having to compromise with the West.

Another example of why maximalist political hostility can be counterproductive. Leave an olive branch in sight, and you may work towards a mutually beneficial resolution, like the previous Iran nuclear deals. If push your opponent into a corner, then don't get upset when they jump over the wall into the wild where you can't catch them anymore. See also Chinese chips and AI.

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lxgrtoday at 6:43 PM

Forcing their customers to install government-affiliated alternative CAs, in turn allowing the government to spy on its citizens more easily via mis-issued certs? Great, that'll show them.

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londons_exploretoday at 6:24 PM

This seems like the kind of thing that the USA will explicitly grant an exception to.

It is clearly bad if the whole of Iran gets their own CA infrastructure which the NSA can't as easily spy on.

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128471599today at 6:40 PM

It is a reminder to go back to cash, ATMs and machines where you can enter you transactions instead of using the Internet.

There is no reason to give money to US middlemen for everything you do.

The whole of the EU should do this, too. I stopped using Internet banking after my bank moved from SMS Tan to hardware Tan generator (one of which didn't work) to forced mobile app. No thanks.

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gonzalohmtoday at 6:55 PM

I may speak from ignorance, but why do SSL certificates depend on centralized CA?

If I'm an entity such as a bank, I should be able to sign my own certificate and provide the public keys to my clients which then can use it to both encrypt communications and to make sure you are talking with the entity you want to talk to. Am I missing anything?

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ValdikSStoday at 6:54 PM

The same applies to Russian banks. Russian banks have switched to internal Ministry of Digital Development CA which is not trusted in common browsers.

https://crt.sh/?id=22899279066 (Revoked: privilegeWithdrawn)

cestithtoday at 6:52 PM

This seems like a bad idea.

MadrasTh0rntoday at 6:52 PM

Trump Vance Johnson Elon and Thiel are removing US institutions globally by force

Trump is intentionally playing into Chinese, Russian Noth Korean, Iranian hands

They must be impeached/removed regardless of intent

Nobody voted for this

badatnamestoday at 6:42 PM

Utterly moronic. We support the freedom of the Iranian people by forcing them to install a local government root CA in every browser. I mean at this rate they won't even have to buy their monitoring tech from China any more, just an old PC and a late 90s tarball of Squid

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dayyantoday at 6:47 PM

Good.

jMylestoday at 6:40 PM

It's bizarre that there isn't yet a total separation of certificate-and-state.

borschtpleasetoday at 6:54 PM

One more technical challenge. The whole ssl infrastructure is incompatible with a state current planet moves forward to.

yieldcrvtoday at 6:25 PM

petty

cyberaxtoday at 6:44 PM

This is super-dumb. The same thing is happening with Russian banks.

Their answer? They're now asking users to install root certs from the Russian ministry of communications. So it can now MITM all the encrypted traffic in Russia.

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Daishimantoday at 6:29 PM

So now that SSL certificates are being weaponized it now becomes a matter of national security for any country to have their own independent CA infra.

Another win for the US.

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fhejfnenjdcntoday at 6:32 PM

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zoobabtoday at 6:50 PM

It's not as if SSL critics warned about this ponzi pyramid, prone to censorship.