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no-name-heretoday at 2:46 AM3 repliesview on HN

You can't run recent openAI/Anthropic models locally anyway, so wouldn't a better comparison be a different provider running Qwen or similar model? As then you can also compare against the exact model you'd have locally and any different data privacy of that particular provider?


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koito17today at 2:56 AM

GP's point is about "sending tokens to someone else's computer" versus "keeping the tokens locally". I think model capabilities are secondary.

In May of this year, I was running qwen3.6:35b-a3b on my MacBook (bought in 2024). Obviously not as fast as, say, running a model on Cerebras, but a year ago it wasn't really feasible to have a local model running on my 2024 laptop with vision support. (Concretely, I was passing apartment diagram pictures to Qwen and making it compare different apartments for which ones would feel the most spacious while optimizing for initial moving costs and other factors.)

This was back in May and I wouldn't be surprised if there have been significant improvements since then.

Overall, I think it's fair to compare a workflow like "use llama.cpp locally to upload some pictures and ask questions" to "open the ChatGPT app, upload pictures from your phone, and ask questions". Sure, you can't run a model like GPT-5.4 locally, but the model is mostly an implementation detail here. What a user will care about is: "when I go with the llama.cpp option, am I getting useful information from my conversations?"

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v3ss0ntoday at 3:05 AM

You haven't tried DeekSeek v4 or GLM 5.3 or Qwen 3.8 Next?

You are missing out a lot.

Try that with Hermes or Opencode or Deekseek Harness , even Qwen 3.8 27b works really well for that kind of that.

I just ask it to install windows as a vm on my linux and install vs Community 2019 on it , and then build a legacy vb 2019 project on it. and sleep

When i wake up :

It installs Qemu , setup a vm , inside vm download and install windows 10 on its own , clicking next next next as needed , typing in things , writing powershell , python scripts , that run automatically after install by baking into CD that includes ssh server , reboot , it logins into ssh , trigger pythons script that continue installation of vs 2019 community , which includes a driver that click the installation steps , installs nuget , install all depedencies and then build the project into exe after i woke up.

That is with 100% pure local AI .

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txrx0000today at 2:50 AM

Technically true, but the delay between local and closed frontier is only a few months. And individual sovereignty / digital bodily integrity is almost priceless.

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