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the-smug-oneyesterday at 7:51 PM2 repliesview on HN

Go's compiler is fast because it doesn't do as many advanced (read: computationally expensive) optimizations as other compilers do. No clue about Green Tea and how awesome it is :-).

Lower memory pressure is certainly a difficult thing to beat Go at, Java (OpenJDK) is probably never gonna get there. You get a lot of other stuff, like better peak performance, instead.

Btw, have you tried Leyden/AOT for better startup times? Curious about your experiences with that.


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p2detartoday at 8:28 AM

> Btw, have you tried Leyden/AOT for better startup times? Curious about your experiences with that.

Nope, not yet. It's a good question given that up to now we used to deliver our product only on-premises and Windows Server-only, but this year we are now finally going with the Cloud, which means Docker containers and Linux.

If I remember correctly Leyden required some sort of warm-up and training data collection before being able to effectively execute AOT, right? I need to freshen up my info on that.

I did try GraalVM-compiled Java executables a couple of years ago and they were not bad, but the binaries were quite big (not a showstopper though) and the class-loading issues were kind of a PITA.

gf000today at 5:45 AM

Actually, javac itself is plenty fast, pretty similar to Go's (it also barely does any optimization)

It's usually the build systems that add quite some overhead.