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cyberaxyesterday at 8:22 PM2 repliesview on HN

No, it's not disingenious. Tables _were_ accessible and easily navigable, including by screen readers. They are also a very logical way of organizing content.

> One of the reasons we moved to XHTML, semantic markup, CSS instead of Tables... was to enable accessibility.

Again, nope. Try a design with 3-4 columns with the old CSS and see how it behaves. The order of elements in the HTML often differs from the visual order, confusing the readers.

It also breaks tab-navigation, even the https://csszengarden.com/ has the "View All Designs" button that is inaccessible.

Then add absolutely-positioned headers and other popular CSS patterns.


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krupanyesterday at 10:29 PM

I remember tables within tables within tables. Were those really accessible? The humans writing that html couldn't always keep it straight

agosyesterday at 9:11 PM

tables are a very logical way of organizing _tabular_ content. they're a terrible tool for layout, accessibility wise

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