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sigmoid10yesterday at 11:44 PM7 repliesview on HN

The actual current frontier plays somewhere around GM level.

https://chessbench-ai.github.io/#leaderboard

It's also worth noting that the very latest models (GPT-6 and Fable 5.1) actually play worse than their immediate predecessors, so it is likely that the labs are not benchmaxxing for this yet. If they did, I'm sure they could come up with something superior to humans. But there is probably very little demand for this compared to IT stuff.


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minrawstoday at 12:11 AM

I know HN readers and posters just read numbers and can't be bothered to read, but please read the methodology before making any claims.

> About their ELO ratings from their own website:

> A field-relative rating calculated within ChessBench. It compares performance among the tested models and is not a direct equivalent of a human chess rating.

I am around 1600 elo in over the board I can mop up Astra Fable etc even if I give them literal infinite time and all the subagents and internet access..

Please folks at least use your AIs to read stuff before making claims.

AI is not GM level, it's not even 1600, I am 1600 by using memorized openings people frequently fall for with very basic intuitions.

A GM is 2600 they can beat me in under 20 moves...

Why do I even scroll through this website. For a moment I truly felt fooled, but then I read like a human should.

Maybe I should stop doing that will be a happier life, don't think just believe in the AGI.

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csande17today at 12:00 AM

Even if you take that website at face value, the ELO scores shown are relative to the other AI models tested, and not comparable to the ELO scores of humans who play against other humans.

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sashank_1509today at 12:14 AM

These ratings seems very wrong, i have beaten GPT Astra max thinking in chess and my rating is close to 1500. The ratings here seem more accurate: https://chessbenchllm.onrender.com/

GPT-6 almost never suggests an illegal move anymore while even Sol still did so time to time

einszweitoday at 12:04 AM

Probably tells us that without labs explicitly training/tuning the models or designing the harness (with fast oracle) the LLMs aren't going to get good at those areas.

sobelliantoday at 12:44 AM

If it's a GM then I'm Magnus Carlsen, https://lichess.org/study/27lCQqDa.

htrpyesterday at 11:57 PM

more like you lose intelligence in chess by maxing for coding... hence knocking back the claims of emergent intelligence