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usewiktoday at 11:59 AM0 repliesview on HN

This was a kind of example, and not really the point of my comment.

Though to illustrate further, there are many examples one might find of US acting undemocratically even 40 years ago.

So, politicians will talk, governments will be in power, and the observers will discuss. My invitation was simply to discuss known facts not political rhetoric. And main facts are largely absent and unknown.