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ololobustoday at 12:21 PM4 repliesview on HN

I have no idea how we do it, but I think we should somehow ban the expansion of all the existing unions (EU, CIS, NATO, whatever else we got). The overall worldwide tension is pretty high, but now

- US goes after South America and Greenland

- EU goes after Canada and Georgia (country), which is just ridiculous in terms of geography

- Russia invades Ukraine and goes after Eastern Europe and Middle-East to some extent

- China does its expansion too

Even though some of these actions are just political nonsense, it still increases the overall level of escalation. This is not what the world needs right now

Trade agreements and unions — yes, please; yet another political or military union expansion — please, God, no. I understand that EU is a mix of both, but also do think that this is a purely political game against Trump


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jeroenhdtoday at 12:52 PM

The US invaded South America and is treatening to invade Greenland, just like Russia is invading Ukraine.

The EU is offering enhanced trade relations with Canada and Georgia.

Those are completely different things.

toasty228today at 12:30 PM

- US goes after South America and Greenland

- EU goes after Canada and Georgia (country), which is just ridiculous in terms of geography

Absolute brain dead comparison

Allestoday at 12:57 PM

You dont really see a difference between US wanting to take over SA and Greenland militarily and Canada and Georgia wanting closer ties to the EU voluntarily?

You sound like Puting fan boys arguing about NATO expansion, NATO does not expand. countries voluntarily ask to join them, because the alternative is being destroyed

throwaway894345today at 12:31 PM

I’m an American, and I don’t see it as a purely political game against Trump—my country has dramatically shifted its position toward its allies from reliable partner for 80 years to aggressive antagonist both in trade and military. And it’s not just a rogue president—a full third of the US electorate supports these actions.

It makes sense to me that these countries would want to build new trade and security alliances with countries who have similar interests and who face similar threats.

The alternative to these defensive military pacts is that Russia or the US or whomever can literally invade and annex countries piecemeal to expand their power. If we can’t effectively ban that, then it doesn’t make sense to me to ban the only thing that deters it today.