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ktm5jtoday at 2:40 PM8 repliesview on HN

> "We liberated hardware"

Ya know, I'm not on Flock's side here.. but be real, this is theft. You should be able to own that if you're going to do something like this.


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soupfordummiestoday at 2:54 PM

That's also the biggest plot-hole in the first Star Wars movie. Princess Leia is supposed to be this righteous noble of the moral resistance and yet she STEALS the Death Star plans!

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overtone1000today at 2:54 PM

I don't get the impression that anyone writing about this thinks it's legal. I think the argument would be that it's justified.

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jkestnertoday at 5:00 PM

“I kept trying to explain in between haymakers that we were better than this and on top of that it wasn’t likely to be ruled on favorably as far as the courts.” - Luke O’Neil https://flaminghydra.com/the-end-and-after-2/

intrasighttoday at 2:50 PM

But we own the cameras

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micromacrofoottoday at 3:44 PM

liberation is often used to refer to something that, while technically legal, the people that are subject to it did not agree to

0b4a1f8caa8b2atoday at 3:32 PM

Anything becomes permissible when you believe yourself to be “on the right side of history.”

IAmBroomtoday at 5:34 PM

> You should be able to own that if you're going to do something like this.

Um, are you saying the hackers should admit they broke the law? Or that Flock should righteously own the data they collect?

Either way, I d/c. Flock cameras are probably insecure, and their data is potentially dangerous.

Bad laws exist, and following them may be prudent at times, but the act of following them isn't a moral imperative.

outside1234today at 2:44 PM

And my privacy? The threat to democracy? Does Flock own that? Why is always the poors that need to own morality?